I solved that issue by filing the end of the ejector rod a bit to allow it to line up easier with the chamber mouths. If you are at an office or shared network, you can ask the network administrator to run a scan across the network looking for misconfigured or infected devices. For any .30 Carbine rounds to be used on larger animals, JSPs or JHPs work well. I enjoy shooting it more than my 357 and have never had problems finding ammo. I also have a 1943 M-1 Carbine in very good condition. bullets, dropping the FPS to around 1400. It’s as tough as the other Magnum sixgun cartridges. The chamber would have to be reamed and opened up for the larger rim. So how long has the 30 Carbine been around and in use? The pistol came with a set of black plastic grips featuring light checkering and the silver Ruger emblem (above left). I’m sad to say, but the .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk does not quite live up to this golden standard. As he mentioned, if you shoot a straight walled cartridge meant for a revolver and it would be more reliable, like a .357. I was curious what the black hawk 30 carbine twist rate is – I never fired it closer than 25 yards and I am wondering if it has stabilizing issues because of the short barrel, slower twist rate and fairly heavy bullet weight? I would love to hear and expert tell me the holy grail of their AMT 6 5/8 Automag III and the load I can use to make the seas part – the 45wm has 1:16 twist as measured today with my cleaning rod – 255GR JHP coming out of it at 6 5/8 inches? Twist rate has to determine bullet weight (now I can only buy rifle cartridges so I am stuck) and that’s why the military (barring S/P rifles and spec ops) went to 1:7 to spin heavy tracers faster – to stabilize since a 1:8 does up to 77gr well and 1:12 great for 55gr. It might not be the most practical pistol, but the .30 Carbine version of the Blackhawk is a well-made, dead-accurate, soft-shooting, all-around fun, and slightly unique firearm. 10 to 15 years later I bought another single action just like the former one I had, just to take with us when we went into the mountains of Idaho. Also, the .30 Carbine normally uses bullets of .310″ diameter while the .32-20 sixgun barrels … Their will be a part two as I did not finish shooting my Black Hawk. Good Shooting! The idea of chambering a rifle cartridge in a handgun is a hardly a new one; although, in more modern days, some companies have taken the concept to the point of borderline absurdity. You can hot rod the crap out of .357 in a Blackhawk if you load your own. If a case is trimmed below a … Completing the CAPTCHA proves you are a human and gives you temporary access to the web property. I have one in particular that will stick after the first shot. The bore as someone else mentioned needs to be polished a bit better from the factory. However, 60 rounds or so is a rather small number before a gun starts having reliability issues, so it is a notable — really, the only — black mark against the pistol. However, some of the reload manufacturers are loading the brass down with standard lead 110 gr. This kind of comment always makes me laugh. • I absolutely love the Blackhawk. The rear sight is click-adjustable for both elevation and windage (1 click = 3/4” @ 25 yards) with the aid of a small screwdriver. Never fired these but have seen them on sale at gun shows. … I’ll never forget that year. That’s right a lot longer that you have been around. Think something is screwed up, here? The weapon never malfunctioned, broke or otherwise acted up. And then I get light primer strikes almost every time I take the gun out shooting. In 1877, a mere four years after its introduction, Colt released a “Frontier” model of the pistol, chambered—rather than Colt’s (then-) proprietary .45 Colt cartridge — for the .44-40 round used by the similarly-popular Winchester 1873 lever-action rifle — allowing one to use the same ammo in both rifle and pistol. Hey guys, Ive got an opportunity to pick up a Ruger Blackhawk chambered in .30 carbine. Thanks! Is That a Trick Question? I really like the new models best because I shoot 32/20 brass in mine because they have a rimmed case so no head space problems. IF I spray it with some lub before firing. Two of Smith & Wesson’s ’90s Stainless Metallic Fantastics, Heads-Up Comparison: P365 vs. Hellcat vs. MAX-9 vs. M&P9 Shield Plus. The gun’s sights consist of a black ramp front, and a black square notch rear — nothing fancy, but they work well enough. I looked at gunnersden stats and it shows the 30 cal performing (energy foot pounds) better than many so-called larger hand guns. Some attention must be paid to bullet dia . Not up to the golden standard of most revolvers. There is a formula somewhere (on every AR forum) to calculate rpm of the bullet based upon twist rate and fps I believe? The cartridge headspaces on the case mouth so case length is critical, and the.30 Carbine case seems to grow and shrink more than others. That revolvers are — if not perfectly reliable, then the closest possible thing — is widely considered to be axiomatic. The level of detail and history makes for good reading regardless of how lame the firearm is in real life. The Ruger .30 Carbine doesn’t quite make the velocity of the carbine, but it will still push a 110 Gr bullet at over 1,400 fps with hot loads. Cloudflare Ray ID: 641f21d10a3a3b22 If the brass is right at max length it's too long for the chambers and the cylinder won't want to turn. My (quite light) reload above generated an average of about 375 ft-lbs. Or would it? Ultimately my question becomes what would this stack up against in terms of say a light .357 Magnum bullet (my Lee 105 SWCs that are powder coated specifically in my mind.) Ruger Talk - The Community for Ruger Firearms Owners. Don’t know of very many handguns that can do that and I own a few. While I am at it, I am looking for a .30 Carbine Blackhawk cylinder. There are certainly plenty of things it could be used for: Target shooting/plinking (though .30 Carbine is a bit expensive for a plinker), hunting varmints, even self-defense if you really wanted to for some reason and loaded the gun with a good softpoint or hollowpoint round. I noticed two things about mine: the ejector rod did not always line up properly with the chambers, due to the small diameter of the chambers. Previously in this review I alluded to stickiness issues, and a need for frequent cleaning; the .30 Carbine Blackhawk, I have discovered, is very sensitive to grime in the chambers of the cylinder. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. No recoil at all, but whopping muzzle velocities in the 2500 f/s range using 12 grains of H110. But some people just like to have something a little different, and the Ruger .30 Carbine Blackhawk certainly is that, and a boatload of fun besides. Admittedly, those ballistics don’t sound too thrilling on paper, but let’s compare, shall we? Really, the only thing the .30 Carbine Blackhawk can do that pretty much no other currently-produced handgun can is share ammo with an M1 Carbine. This issue was predominant with non-brass case ammo, so now I use brass case ammo only. Going from memory a Desert Eagle comes in at a few oz lighter than this tank. It might not necessarily be smart, but the actions have demonstrated that they can handle those pressures. Is The Revolver Dead? However, after firing a moderate number of rounds through the gun — usually around 60 or so — the chambers tend to start getting sticky, requiring fresh rounds to be seated firmly with finger pressure to make sure they go all the way in — lest they rub against the breechface and bind up the action somewhat. When I bought this gun, I was a newbie to the Colt Single Action-style grip. Materials: Alloy Steel, Anodized Aluminum, Sights: Adjustable sights (Front ramp, adjustable rear sight). It’s pretty damn accurate. A handgun chambered in .30 Carbine probably isn’t for everyone. The 41 mag and 44 mag provide more punch than the 30 cal but I already have a 30 cal M1 Carbine so the ammo is in the house already. No set back problems with this one either. There is an inherent degree of sexiness and class in the Colt “Peacemaker” design, and the Blackhawk is no exception, despite being a little bigger and beefier than the original Colts to allow for the chambering of more powerful rounds. And the experiment seemed to work out for Colt, as they went on to release versions of the Peacemaker in both the .38-40 and .32-20 Winchester rifle cartridges as well. It is loud, and has a good concussion. However, it would not feed in any of my semiautos. For a fun plinking or water jug exploding experience, try reloading with 40- or 55-grain .224 bullets in sabots. I was playing around with my Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine the other day and I got to wondering. At least one of the chambers was oversized & loose fitting, and the tapered .30 carbine case would back out of the chamber as the cylinder rotated which jammed up the action. Grayfox54 New Member. It is, by far, the most pleasantly recoiling gun I’ve ever fired that wasn’t a .22. When the cylinder is clean, rounds drop all the way into the chambers with zero effort — as it should be. Time to smell the roses. This or the BFR? Mine is a “New Model” Blackhawk, meaning it uses a transfer-bar mechanism to prevent the hammer from striking the firing pin unless it has been cocked and the trigger pulled — allowing you to safely carry a full complement of six rounds in the cylinder, as opposed to having to leave an empty chamber under the hammer as with the original Colt and the older pre-1973 Blackhawks. .30 Carbine in a revolver does nothing better than what the .327 can and the .327 can shoot 3 to 4 other cartridges. Then, got a cylinder from Brownells, had it chambered to 32-20 and used it with the .308" barrel, shot about the same, less of a problem to reload. I knew nothing about this particular Ruger, and now I do. It's fun to shoot and I was very surprised to find out that with factory ammo, it is very flat shooting out to 100 yards from the 7.5 inch barrel. My memory of firing the revolver when at Ruger in the 1980s was that military ammo was unpleasantly noisy and chronographed about 1400 fps, comparing to the 7.62x25 Tokarev, but with a heavier bullet. Fired from the Blackhawk’s 7.5-inch barrel, the .30 Carbine round loses several hundred feet per second of muzzle velocity (and hence quite a bit of energy) compared to when it’s fired from the Carbine — as one might expect when one more-than-halves the barrel length. The bullet would be .003 to .004 thousands oversize, but factory rounds are loaded to less than half the pressure ( SAAMI says 16,000 PSI ) of a carbine round and that soft lead bullet should have no trouble squeezing down. According to Handloaders Manual of Cartridge Conversions the biggest problem I can see is the .30 carbine case neck diameter is .336" compared to .32-20 neck dia. It was a cleaning issue. While the gun is not my cup-o-tea, I never write off an oddball. By having both weapons able to use the same ammo, makes for easy logistics. My EDC semi is 42 ounces, and it’s not the only full frame steel pistol in that weight class. You have entered an incorrect email address! So who’s better? Disassembling the Blackhawk for cleaning couldn’t be easier. Granted its not the end all round some other are but for it’s purpose in WW2 it served quite well. I inherited quite a few guns from my father including a sw 357, 30 cal Blackhawk and an m1 30. Please enable Cookies and reload the page. Gun Review: Ruger New Model Blackhawk in .30 Carbine. Also, I think that a few … Very convenient. So, if you have your heart set on the little carbine as your SHTF/TEOTWAWKI rifle, and you really want a pistol using the same round as a backup, Ruger’s got you covered. The 30 carbine Blackhawk has been a stand alone factory offering since time began. The answer: Pretty well. I especially like the sight picture photos & the cleaning sequence of any firearm is a important consideration. Plenty of people use rifle primers (harder primer cups) and exceed recommended powder charges in their Blackhawks. fmj. It was the first real commercial .30 Carbine handgun. They are too expensive these days. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. LMAO. See chamberings such as .30-30 Winchester and .45-70 in the Magnum Research BFR, or… pretty much anything you can dream of short of a .50 BMG (limited only by one’s desire to maintain the structural integrity of their wrists) in a Thompson/Center Encore. Lower velocity rounds will not work well in the rifles as they are gas operated and require certain back pressures to cycle the weapon. That said supposedly people shoot 32-20s from these as well? Today I measured the twist rate and found out it is 1:16 from a 6 5/8 barrel? If you absolutely have to have a .30 Carbine rifle and want sidearms chambered for same ammo, go for it, but otherwise the .30 Carbine is soon to join obsolete centerfire cartridges. I bought a brand new New Model Blackhawk in .30 Carbine several years ago and was very disappointed. And I’m not even counting the 600 Nitro Express Pfeifer Zeliska — if it weighs 13 pounds, it’s no longer a “hand”-gun. I own one of these 30s, great shooter. S&W experimented with a .30 Carbine revolver during WWII. You do have to trim the 32/20 brass just a bit but it's well worth the effort. I enjoyed reading this review. I felt that this particular gun would be unreliable in the field and for self-defense because of it. I don’t agree with your take on reliability. I used a brand new box of american eagle.30 carbine bullets 110 gr. The first is a Smith and Wesson 22Jet Model 53. The finish seems to be of moderate durability; after several hundred rounds through the gun there are some slight scuff-marks on the cylinder — an inevitable occurrence with any revolver, I understand — and I somehow ( I seriously don’t know how) managed to put a little scratch in the finish on the underside of the barrel. I can shoot 2-3 round before time to spray some more for 2 of the chambers in the cylinder. One way to check this might be to anneal the brass cases before loading to soften them and see if chamber sealing was improved, perhaps reducing or eliminating the sticking problem. This is, I am fairly certain, simply a consequence of chambering a rimless cartridge in a revolver (without the use of moon clips, which cannot be used with a fixed-cylinder revolver like the Blackhawk). This was very interesting Review of the .30 Ruger Single Action Blackhawk. Ruger Blackhawk Blued .30 Carbine. But, more on that a bit later…. But seriously, great review. It’s the same size as one for a .45 Colt Blackhawk, just with teeny tiny .30 Carbine-sized holes, so it’s quite a heavy chunk of steel. Should I even consider it? This post is about the 30 carbine – forget the AMT part except that it is 1:16 twist rate and so is 45WM and I need help with that load too. Whoa, I think this one needs to be formatted still. There was nothing wrong with them per se, but I have rather large hands, and the original grips were too thin for my taste. I am, admittedly, not exactly a stellar shot, but I shoot the .30 carbine Blackhawk better than any other pistol I’ve ever fired — which list includes a SIG, and a pair of nice Smith & Wessons. You don`t see Ruger Blackhawk revolvers chambered for 30 Carbine very often. With regard to the issue of sticking cases: while the author posits a plausible explanation, I wonder if he also considered the possibility that his light handloads were too light to properly expand the brass upon firing, thus allowing more crunk to blow into the chambers than a full powered round would. I fooled a bit with the .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk when I worked for the company, but never owned one until recently. Another way to prevent getting this page in the future is to use Privacy Pass. In fact when laying prone to shoot I literally felt the concussion at almost the same time as I heard the sound. I agree that the pistol is loud, but it also will shoot straight at 50yds. At only $40 or so, I highly recommend them. Yo, Dan! While the lock makes about as much sense as a gallium frying pan, and I’d rather not have it — I’ve never touched it, and I don’t ever intend to — so far I’ve had no problems with it, so it’s not too much of a demerit. EX: They say the 30 cal handgun provides 783 ft. lbs of energy at the muzzle and 622 ft. lbs at 50 yards. Sturm Ruger Blackhawks are very common single action revolvers. Not as loud, however, as most people on the internet would have you think; based on the various reviews and forum discussions of this gun that I read before buying it, I half expected the muzzle blast to shatter every piece of glass, and set off every car alarm, within a quarter mile radius or so. Chambers needed to be kept clean and free of oil as any residues … Say someone with out much clue. We took the old 30 Herrett and shortened it 1/10 of an inch and made the case a bit straighter and the shoulder a bit sharper. If it were a Taurus then there would be four things I don’t want about loud 30 carbine old-school revolver. I then went out and bought a shirt to put them in, (my joke at the time) I loved that gun but some years later had to sell it because I was broke. The hammer, interestingly enough, is only blued on the top — the sides are left as bare shiny steel — and the trigger is also unblued. Flat-shooting popgun that – in this gun, with its beefy cylinders, could probably be loaded up to near-3000 f/s with the 40 grain bullets without issue. 5 0 0. It was designed to replace the pistol. I recently purchased a Ruger Blackhawk in 30 Carbine. The 30 Carbine Blackhawk is the second loudest gun I ever fired. However, I have to admit that it’s somewhat like a circular pencil: Without an obvious point. This is an easily solvable problem: just keep the chambers clean — I clean mine very often, and have found that simply running a dry bore brush through the chambers a few times can go a long way towards loosening them back up between real cleanings. I really, really want to like the idea of a 30 Carbine gun. The Blackhawk 30 Carbine, from my experience, is a damn fine revolver. Ruger made the cylinder as a great headspace gauge. Ruger New Model Blackhawk .30 carbine. … Home Forums > Ruger Firearms Forums > Ruger Revolver Forums > Questions regarding OM Blackhawk in .30 Carbine Discussion in 'Ruger Revolver Forums' started by Grayfox54, Mar 20, 2016. You may need to download version 2.0 now from the Chrome Web Store. I miss the days of cheap surplus. The gun is very easy to clean — and a good thing too, as it needs to be cleaned rather often. I think his quibble has to do with the number of shots between cleanings. From the review, it does seem to need them a bit more frequently than other revolvers I’ve had opportunities to own or shoot. Ruger's purposes were different. They don't make the .30 Carbine version very often and I missed the last release. Problem solved. The other commenters were correct, that was one of the loudest hand guns I had ever shot. Good idea when 30 carbine surplus was 50 cents a box of 50. not so much anymore. Ruger will provide you with a detailed quotation of service fees based upon your request for service and the extent of service that Ruger agrees to provide. This has never been a problem with the .30 Carbine brass. (This is a reader-submitted review as part of our gun review contest. I bought it primarily to have something more powerful to carry than a .22 rimfire revolver when hiking in backcountry. I put plugs in under my muffs to shoot either. But whether to get one in .30 Carbine, or not, is entirely up to personal taste.
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